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There was also a second person in the car that time. In a new city, Chicago, lonely, and very cold. So he says he's going to get a coffee. I should at this point mention that, although I don't really remember exactly how the conversation turned to this, I must have mentioned that I like the Muppets.

How wrong I was. She comes back from the potty and he's buck naked on the couch. I ducked behind cars in a parking lot horror dating stories crouched behind them until he medico away. In fact, all I really got back then were messages from women, decrying the wretched emails us dudes were sending. He was decent looking, although a big hoss of a fellow, and he came across as intelligent, witty, and confident in person. She wanted to see what I met like and have him confront me and break it off, but he wouldn't go up to my door. It turns out, he's a recovering alcoholic. He walked me to my car and as I was leaving slapped me right in between my legs and said 'now you'll never solo me. She's the type of wife I would like to avoid. I went out with each of them, and felt meh on the one, so the other got a second date. And I do like the Muppets - again, what's not to like?!.

It left me very confused and I was in denial about what happened for a long time after. He then told me I reminded him of his mother...

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While chatting with asian women on the internet I remember several women warning me to be careful when seeking someone to date. My friends wife from Manila also warned me of the dangers of dating filipinas. My other friend from Moscow also mentioned it about dating russian women. I guess all these warnings I recieved worked. I'm now completely paranoid and dateless going on 8 yrs. To make it even worse I found this article today. I do think that western men who are in a culture that are racially different tend to be bigger targets for this sort of thing. There are nice women who want a real relationship but there are also a lot of women who just want an easy way out or are trying to socially climb for very selfish reasons. Plus with the cultural blinders on it's difficult for a lot of western men to figure out who is good or bad. Just from that pic I can tell you that Chinese woman is pretty sub-par already. My friends wife from Manila also warned me of the dangers of dating filipinas. My other friend from Moscow also mentioned it about dating russian women. I guess all these warnings I recieved worked. I'm now completely paranoid and dateless going on 8 yrs. To make it even worse I found this article today. That is rather astounding that you would let other people's bad experiences control your life. For every tale like you point out here I could also provide many good accounts for happy marriages that have lasted years. However I must say that marriage with Chinese women seems problematic to me, but I am certainly no expert on China... I can provide much more insight into SE Asia or Latin America. Further, the men in these accounts seem rather pathetic and easy targets for gold-diggers. Lack of wisdom always has a high price and there is no vaccine against stupidity. Find men who have succeeded in the area you are wanting, and enjoy their guidance and insights on the process. A word to the wise is unnecessary.... Nate dano wrote:Well I haven't completely given up yet. Dating western woman is definately not a confidence booster, and can lead to paranoia. However, I should mention that I am inspired by the dating success of guys on this forum. I did find this woman to be rather funny. She could use some acting lessons, its like she's reading a cue card. She's the type of wife I would like to avoid. You will run into a lot of frustration when you try to assume it is some kind of universal concept. The term courtship is far more accurate in many parts of the world. My GF's parents live in what is likely the most dangerous part of the Philippines- in Sulu. Apart from cutthroats, pirates, and Abu Sayyef, no problem. I went there to meet her parents and essentially ask their blessing. Her father practically cried like a baby, and he is a tough customer himself. I think it might have beeen more like some kind of genetic destiny. Keep an open mind to the fact that culture does not translate well... Nate Winston wrote:You gotta remember that the media thrives on bad news. It's not gonna report good news. Nothing is without risk. Some men attract mostly users and bad experiences. Others only attract good girls. And some attract both. But the majority of men who date overseas say it is far BETTER than in America. That's the bottom line. Don't live in fear. I think that's the final point people will take away from this. That it's better to be surrounded by potential good and bad choices with the freedom to figure out your own course than it is to be surrounded with practically no good choices at all. Grunt wrote:The PI is hyper-Westernized and the disease of feminism is spreading. If one has a penchant for Asian girls, you would be much MUCH better off in Thailand. The Philippines has its own American Department of Veterans Affairs office. It may as well be the 51st US state. It was never on my list of places to seek a wife. Have you been to the Philippines or Thailand??? Believe me, the Philippines is a hell of a long ways from anything like the 51st state... Many aspiring expats find it is far more of a culture shock than they imagined. The Veterans offices there are for all the Filipinos who served in US forces since WWII. I do keep a home in the Philippines, and I cannot recall a visitor ever thinking it could be confused for the 51st state. I have spent quite a bit of time in Thailand and there are some decent Thai girl, but most Yanks will find Filipinas are a lot more compatible. While there are scammers everywhere, I know of far more decent Filipinas known to me personally than I know decent American men to introduce them to.... Your individual results may vary...